[Sidefx-houdini-list] i7 or dual Xeons

Mirko Jankovic mirkoj.animator at gmail.com
Mon Oct 24 05:33:20 EDT 2016


Sure they work great, point is for someone that is buying new workstation
now they are really not good choice :)
ᐧ

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Zoran Arizanovic <
zoran.arizanovic at gmail.com> wrote:

> i am satisfied with them and RS
> its not the newest gear but works for me
> sorry cant share scenes as they are huge
> I think on RS forum there is some benchmark scene
>
>
>
>
> Zoran Arizanovic
> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/zoran-arizanovic/4/177/295>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Mirko Jankovic <
> mirkoj.animator at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "i have hp z800
> > 72gb ram
> > dual xeon old ones
> > and quadro4000+tesla k40 in"
> >
> > Quadro and Tesla are BAD choice for Redshift.
> > Price vs performance is really really bad.
> > Any newer GTX cards will be faster of both of those cards and price wise
> > don't even wan't to go that road :)
> >
> > If you are able to share any of those scenes to test and compare I will
> > gladly do it on misc cards :)
> > ᐧ
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Zoran Arizanovic <
> > zoran.arizanovic at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i have hp z800
> > > 72gb ram
> > > dual xeon old ones
> > > and quadro4000+tesla k40 in
> > > for redshift and houdini its amazing speed benefit
> > >
> > > average 3d scene with GI renders in under 2min per frame
> > >
> > > https://vimeo.com/180557603
> > >
> > > sampling like this on mantra I cant get away from less than 30min
> > >
> > > https://vimeo.com/182658511
> > >
> > > and volume sim and render on a machine like this is a matter of minutes
> > > not hours
> > >
> > > https://vimeo.com/180051394
> > >
> > > Zoran Arizanovic
> > > LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/zoran-arizanovic/4/177/295>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Mirko Jankovic <
> > > mirkoj.animator at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > 6950X is not really good comparison here as their price is simple
> > > extereme
> > > > a bit over board so...
> > > > You can get nice 5930k that will do great job. I havent followed on
> > 6xxx
> > > > series much honestly but there are great ones from taht series as
> well
> > > taht
> > > > will not kill your budget.
> > > >
> > > > And any i7 with 40 PCI lanes is good to handle 4 GPUs without issues.
> > > > Redshift benefits more of faster cores then multiple cores... ofc
> still
> > > > talking about i7 range not i3 CPUs, and in that matter Xeon would
> > > actually
> > > > be worse for Redshift.
> > > > And honestly ton of things are more single core - higher speed
> > beneficial
> > > > then multi core slower speeds as you already pointed out.
> > > > So unless he is on Arnold, Vray or similar CPU render engine.. a lot
> > more
> > > > benefits are there from i7 compared to Xeons.
> > > >
> > > > For example 2 fastest e5-2687W xeons would be terrible choice for
> > > Redshift
> > > > as it have lower clock speeds and ton of cores that wont be used at
> all
> > > and
> > > > for price of two of them you can get i7 and couple great GPUs.
> > > >
> > > > but even with overboard 6950x tehre is still budget for couple good
> > GPUs,
> > > > compared to xeon route :)
> > > > plus you can OC i7
> > > > plus it handles 4 GPUs with ease :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ᐧ
> > > > CC seeems it went to Robert only, sorry
> > > > ᐧ
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Robert Okker <
> > > > robert.okker at darlings-post.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think it also depends if you're using other programes as well.
> > > > > Do you use any adobe programs like afx alot (take a single proc
> high
> > > > > clockspeed, because they scale shit with multiprocessor) or nuke,
> > > arnold.
> > > > > etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't know how well houdini scales with multicore etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > But as for price it isn't that much cheaper.
> > > > > this is a little list i created some weeks ago for our new ws.
> > > > > it's in euro's and prices will vary on region but still the price
> of
> > a
> > > 10
> > > > > core i7 is out of order.
> > > > > And even the 8 core is close to 2x dual xeon.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't use red shift but it supposed to scale really good with
> > > > multiple
> > > > > gpu's
> > > > > For this the xeons have an advantage of having more pci lanes
> > > available,
> > > > > so if you want to have a 3rd or fourth GTX card for rendering it
> > help's
> > > > ;)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > proc cores procs clockspeed turbo total clockspeed price Single
> Total
> > > > > price/hrz
> > > > > i7-6950X 10 1 3 30 €1,727.09 €1,727.09 €57.57
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 8 2 2.1 3 33.6 €469.00 €938.00 €27.92
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2630 v3 8 2 2.4 3.2 38.4 €710.40 €1,420.80 €37.00
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2630 v4 10 2 2.2 3.1 44 €739.46 €1,478.92 €33.61
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2640 v3 8 2 2.6 3.4 41.6 €1,000.55 €2,001.10 €48.10
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2640 v4 10 2 2.4 3.4 48 €1,000.55 €2,001.10 €41.69
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2650 v3 10 2 2.3 46 €1,233.95 €2,467.90 €53.65
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2650 v4 12 2 2.2 52.8 €1,368.36 €2,736.72 €51.83
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2660 v3 10 2 2.6 52 €1,722.00 €3,444.00 €66.23
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2680 v3 12 2 2.5 60 €1,852.55 €3,705.10 €61.75
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2687W v3 10 2 3.1 62 €2,593.95 €5,187.90 €83.68
> > > > > Intel Xeon E5-2687W v4 12 2 3 72 €2,401.85 €4,803.70 €66.72
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert Okker
> > > > > Owner/Head of VFX
> > > > > Darlings Post productions
> > > > > Tel: + 31(0)20 - 6221900
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Olivier Jeannel <
> > > > facialdeluxe at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Damn, the message was posted without beeing finished typing...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So :
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm considering buying a new workstation. kind of 3D machine that
> > will
> > > > do
> > > > >> everything (Sim + render(redshift gpu) )
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 64 gb
> > > > >> one (or two) gtx 1080
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But I'm still not fixed on the CPU.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can have dual xeon 2x10 cores at 2.2 Ghz. They are quite
> > expensive,
> > > > and
> > > > >> the price grows a lot if I take faster xeon.
> > > > >> So I'm thinking of a fast i7 instead.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What's your opinion ?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thank you :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Olivier Jeannel <
> > > > facialdeluxe at gmail.com
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Hello there,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The debate is still the same.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I'm considering buying a new workstation. kind of 3D machine
> that
> > > will
> > > > >> do
> > > > >> > everything (Sim + render(redshift gpu) )
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > 64 gb
> > > > >> > one (or two) gtx 1080
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > But I'm still not fixed on the CPU.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I can have dual xeon 2x10 cores at 2.2 Ghz. They are quite
> > > expansive,
> > > > >> >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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