[Sidefx-houdini-list] "You can't polish a turd" - was Siggraph.& Maya..

Michael Goldfarb goldfarb at coredp.com
Wed Aug 19 13:00:16 EDT 2009


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jc at axyzfx.com wrote:
> As much as Gene and I try to avoid agreeing in public...what he said. :P 
> It's not why we have houdini. Cops are a nice bonus, but just ship the primary image formats(dpx *cough*) and leave the streaming swiss army knife tools elsewhere. Streaming movie formats are a quagmire. (giggidty!)
> Cheers
> JC
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Dreitser[keyframe at rogers.com]
> Received: 09-08-18 10:07 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Sidefx-houdini-list] "You can't polish a turd" - was Siggraph.& Maya..
> 
> 
> I think the notion of a 'movie file' is what is fundamentally out of place here.
> 
> QT, AVI, WMV, FLV, the list goes on and on -- and I would imagine that keeping up with all the idiosyncrasies of each flavour, would take a small army of developers to keep up with.  In fact, I can't think of a single app that 'just reads it all' correctly -- if it existed, i'm sure it would find a great place in our collective tool chests.
> 
> I don't believe that this apps' place is in the compositing space.  editing perhaps?  maybe as a conform tool of sorts?  but not compositing.
> 
> just my $0.02.
> 
> Best,
> 
> G
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "craigleehoffman at aol.com" <craigleehoffman at aol.com>
> 
> 
> And my understanding is that there are pretty standard API's out there
> to read movie files as long as you download the codec.  It probably could 
> be coded in a very short time (although I don't know how well it would 
> play with COPs caching, etc.).
> 
> Maybe there are licensing fees and such that we are not thinking about.
> 
> But this is a good example of why it would be great to have such an 
> ability in COPs.
> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Larry Giunta wrote:
> 
>> I think this sounds like a pretty reasonable request that makes a lot
>> of sense.
>>
>> Personally, we just finished a job where we needed 60+ HD footage
>> clips mapped onto a bunch of billboard/grids in a 3D environment.
>>
>> So, we had to first convert all of the movie files to an image
>> sequence for import into COPs ........ then we could finally
>> converted those image sequences to .rat sequences for texture maps.
>> Just one extra step, but across 60 HD clips it adds up.
>>
>> We're on linux though. I wonder if this can already be done on the
>> Mac or Windows version by playing the movie through mplay and
>> exporting directly to .rat sequences.
>> Is that already doable??
>>
>> In any event, I do understand the emphasis on dedicating the majority
>> of resources to the 3D aspects of the package.
>> But COPs continues to be an extremely useful part of Houdini and a
>> bit of updating (such as supporting industry standard movies) seems
>> like it would be worth the effort.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> COPs needs to support industry standard Movie Files and needs some
>>> other industry standard filters added
>>>
>>>
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