[Sidefx-houdini-list] disappearing HDA parameters

rachael rachael at methodstudios.com
Thu Jun 5 15:38:34 EDT 2008

doesnt it make back ups of all your HDAs? I mean really, we're a small 
studio, we just have good communication with each other so we know who's 
working on what and who shouldnt be messing around inside the HDA. 
Houdini makes auto backups for us, which is great for when we break it. 
Seems pretty straight forward. Even in a larger company, there shouldnt 
be 20 people working on one HDA so maybe I'm missing the point of this 
long thread. And personally, I wouldnt want SESI trying to manage my 
system. They make 3D software not pipeline software, it's a totally 
different knowledge base. That's just my two cents. Personally, i love 
the way HDAs are set up right now and I'm really looking forward to the 
improvements I've heard about in 9.5. Should be even more fun!!

paul simpson wrote:
> 2008/6/4 Michael Goldfarb <goldfarb at coredp.com>:
>> this has come up a few times on od[force]
>> otl management is /extremely/ important...and once you get them under
>> control their power really starts to rock...
>> personally I'd rather see SESI spending time on other things rather than
>> building pipeline tools that only a very few people, mostly those not in
>> a studio environment, will ever use.
>> we built a python based system that versions otls in about 2 man
>> weeks...and even an hscript system could be done in a short amount of
>> time...
>> someone with some spare time should do something and put it out for the
>> community to help develop...
> if it's so easy then *sesi* should provide a bare bones system!  because
> anything is better than the current nothing.  whilst the large studios do
> have their own version control system - many small (and surprisingly some
> large) shops have poor (or no) established systems.  if sidefx wants to
> expand it's market share and sell houdini to new users (small shops doing
> commercials for instance) then imho it needs to provide a more complete
> package (along with a proper production ready shaders - don't get me started
> on that).
> for what it's worth (and i've mentioned this many many times before) i
> believe that a linux like rpm/deb style dependency system is whats needed.
> the current state of otl management reminds me of pre yast/zypper/yum days
> of linux package management.  ie, a complete mess!  i believe that proper
> otl management *should* be managed by sesi.
> for example: right now, how could you easily publish an asset (to exchange
> for example) that relies on many other sub assets (say that you have either
> created or downloaded)?  you can't - or if you can - please do tell!  this
> is hindering us all sharing assets between projects and each other.  this is
> a core function that should be provided with the package.  (and overridden
> for studio setups).
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