[Sidefx-houdini-list] VFX article

Louis Dunlevy ld at dneg.com
Thu Jun 7 10:27:18 EDT 2007


If Houdini wasn't such a rarity in the industry it would be easier to 
spread the load when things get crazy. The eye of the needle and all 
that.. ;-)

Michael Goldfarb wrote:
> unions bad
> labor laws good...
>
> most of the stories that I hear about crazy hours etc are actually 
> illegal...and you can't sign away your rights in a contract.
>
> Adrian Lee wrote:
>> man thats a dodgy beard
>>
>> A 3d union is a great idea but wouldn't it just start price artists 
>> out of
>> the market? Its ok trying to  set miniumum wages and all but if the big
>> studios wont pay any more  wont the fx houses suffer?
>>
>> Mind you the unions did work for the coal workers, the steel workers, 
>> the
>> post workers and got votes for women.!
>>
>> On 07/06/07, zoran arizanovic <zoran.arizanovic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> yes and the way it works we need some guys to keep freelancers in 
>>> line ;p
>>> like these
>>> http://anthrax.com/NFWS/images/scottDeadwood.jpg
>>>
>>> On 6/7/07, Luca Zappala <luca at cinesite.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We could join a 3d union where we set the max working hours min wages
>>> > etc. etc.,
>>> > however bear in mind that until there are freelancers willing to work
>>> > crazy hours for little money
>>> > such a thing as a 3d union will be useless...
>>> >
>>> > We should first "teach" people that it's not companies "offering" 
>>> a job
>>> > to the lucky ones, it's artists providing
>>> > a valuable service to companies
>>> > L
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > zoran arizanovic wrote:
>>> > > not a bad idea :)
>>> > > sigraph and other similar associations dont do this so we should 
>>> do it
>>> > > ourselves
>>> > > z
>>> > >
>>> > > On 6/7/07, James Rutherford <jrutherford at stclaircollege.ca> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> One of my former students just finished work on some stuff for the
>>> > >> Transformers movie....it was with several guys with little 
>>> experience
>>> > >> running cracked Maya out of their bedrooms...little money and no
>>> > >> time....they aren't shots in the actual movie ..it's for a 
>>> marketing
>>> > >> tie-in....anyways final results looks great with web broadcast and
>>> > >> elements will be used in web and tv commercials....and some of 
>>> these
>>> > >> guys have already freelanced for a company that is part of Kevin
>>> Haug's
>>> > >> FXcartel setup that has done several large features mining guys 
>>> from
>>> > all
>>> > >> over the world, generally based on where the best tax credits are
>>> > >> available.......
>>> > >> I think this industry needs a union...brothers and sisters....:)
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>>>
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